Dragons ‘Can be Hurt, And They Can Be Killed’: Game of Thrones Showrunner

Game of Thrones showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss reflect on the events of episode 4 (The Spoils of War) of season 7 and discuss that epic battle between Daenerys’ and Jaime Lannister’s forces. You can watch the video above or read the transcript below.

Weiss: She (Daenerys) had a nicely triumphant return to Dragonstone, which nobody contested or got in the way of. From that point on, she’s lost two of her principle allies, she’s lost a lot of her fleet. She’s in a position where if she doesn’t step up soon and come up with a big win of her side, she’s gonna lose this fight before it even begins. I think she really feels the pressure of her situation more than she ever has before. This is the fight she’s been waiting for her whole life.

Benioff: I think there are several stories interplaying here. Part of it is that Dany’s finally cutting loose. The whole first part of the season, she’s been frustrated. In following Tyrion’s counsel, she’s been fighting with one hand behind her back, and so she hasn’t really unleashed the Dothraki horde. She hasn’t really set dragons into combat yet.

Weiss: With the loot train battle, one of the things that’s most exciting about it for us… This is the first time we’ve ever had two sets of main characters on opposite sides of battlefield. And it’s impossible to really want any one of them to win, and impossible to want any one of them to lose… This dragon flies up. That makes it a totally different situation. It’s almost like, ‘What if somebody had an F-16 that they brought to a medieval battle?’ You start to scrap the history of it a bit, and just think about how would those things interact with each other in a way that’s exciting and believable to the extent that dragons are believable?

Benioff: Qyburn realized that the dragons were vulnerable. They might be fearsome beasts, but they are mortal and they can be hurt, and they can be killed. We see the scorpion come into play, manned by Bronn- And we see Drogon wounded. Things turn out okay for them, but I think it also changes the calculation a little bit, because now they know these weapons are on the board. This ongoing war with Cersei is entering into a dangerous territory.

Weiss: Jaime’s charge at Daenerys is a hard thing to top for me in that sequence, only because when you have a principle character trying to murder another principle character, that doesn’t happen all that often.

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